From High Ticket to Ecosystem: Rethinking Coaching Success

In the latest episode of The Amanda Kaufman Show, we dive into a powerful conversation about what it really takes to build a sustainable coaching business in 2025. If you’ve been focused solely on selling high-ticket offers, this episode will challenge you to think differently.

Our guest shares how one insight from an event transformed his entire approach. It wasn’t about taking in every piece of advice—but about identifying the one key takeaway that could move the needle. That insight? The coaching industry is evolving—and it's time to evolve with it.

The Shift: From One Offer to a Full Ecosystem

The conversation begins with a deep look into why relying solely on high-ticket sales is no longer sustainable. Over the last few years, what used to work—pressure-based sales tactics, short sales cycles, and high-stakes offers—is losing traction. The market has changed. Trust is harder to earn, and clients are more cautious with big investments.

This shift inspired the move toward an ecosystem model: a structure where clients are supported at every level, from low-ticket entry points to high-ticket coaching. This model isn’t just about making more sales—it’s about building longer-term relationships.

By launching a $7 masterclass, followed by a $997 “sweet spot” offer and eventually leading into one-on-one coaching, our guest was able to meet clients where they were. This approach created room for people to engage without pressure and move through a value ladder that made sense for their level of commitment.

Simplicity and Execution Over Complexity

A major takeaway? Success doesn’t require chasing leads or sending cold DMs.

During this recent launch, the entire process was built on organic content and simple follow-up emails. No high-pressure tactics. Just clear communication, genuine value, and a seamless journey from one offer to the next.

Out of 52 people who purchased the masterclass, 33 showed up live. From there, 10 enrolled in the $997 program—without a single sales call. And even more impressively, one person continued on to invest in the top-tier coaching offer. This is what sustainable success looks like: building trust, offering value, and letting clients make aligned decisions.

Why Failure Is Part of the Journey

One of the most powerful parts of the episode comes from a discussion on failure. It’s easy to celebrate the wins—but the real wisdom comes from the moments when things don’t go as planned.

True success, as shared in the episode, comes not from avoiding failure but from embracing it. “Winner is not the one who always sees success,” we hear. “It’s the one who’s full of failures and has been through the trenches.”

Having gone through business challenges, refund requests, and tough decisions, our guest reflects on the support of mentors and the importance of perspective. When things got tough, he leaned on people who had been there—and came out stronger for it.

This is a reminder that the most impactful coaches aren’t the ones who never fail. They’re the ones who know what not to do, who carry the lessons forward, and who help others avoid the same mistakes.

Staying in the Game

What ties all of this together is the commitment to keep going. In an industry that often glorifies instant results, it’s refreshing to hear a story grounded in resilience, adaptation, and strategy.

The message is clear: long-term success isn’t about chasing trends—it’s about understanding your audience, serving deeply, and building an offer suite that allows clients to grow with you.

If you’ve ever felt pressure to “go high-ticket or go home,” this episode is your invitation to think bigger—and smarter.

Final Thoughts

To recap, here are a few key lessons from this powerful episode:

• One solid insight is more valuable than a dozen half-baked ideas.
  

• The industry is evolving—your offer structure should evolve with it.
  

• A value ladder helps you build deeper, more sustainable client relationships.
  

• Failure isn’t the opposite of success—it’s part of the formula.=
  

• Consistency, mentorship, and clarity are more powerful than hype.
  

Ready to hear the full story and start building your own coaching ecosystem? Tune in to this must-listen episode of The Amanda Kaufman Show and get inspired to rethink what coaching success really means.

🎧 Listen now and discover a smarter path to scale, stability, and deeper impact.

Chapters List

00:00 Introduction to Coaching and Marketing Perspectives

03:03 Evolving Coaching Philosophy and Ecosystem Model

05:38 Navigating the Trust Recession in Coaching

08:22 Lessons from Launching the Micro Four Accelerator

11:06 The Importance of Product Ecosystems

13:37 Valuable Insights from Failures and Surroundings

16:14 Long-Term Success in Coaching and Business

18:53 Final Thoughts and How to Connect

Full Transcript

SAHIL SEHGAL (00:00)

winner is not who always sees success. Winner is someone who's full of all the failures, ups and downs, and have been into trenches, they have more failures than successes,

Amanda Kaufman (00:27)

Well, hey, hey, welcome back to the Amanda Kaufman show. I am so excited that you are here. And I am here with a friend that I met mainly because we have very snazzy glasses. So, say hello, welcome to the Amanda Kaufman show, a fellow coach, a fellow marketer with some unique perspectives to share today. So welcome, welcome.

SAHIL SEHGAL (00:50)

Thank you so much for a meta for bringing and I hope it will be valuable to your audience. And yeah, we got this catchy specs. So I love it. I love your red more than that.

Amanda Kaufman (01:00)

Exactly. You know you're going to learn

something because if you're watching us on YouTube, it's two people wearing glasses. This is going to be a smart conversation. So, so, so Hill, why don't you take like 30 seconds, introduce us to like, who are you, you know, as a coach? What is it that you do and how do you help people?

SAHIL SEHGAL (01:08)

Absolutely.

Yeah, so basically I am helping freelancers and coaches, other business coaches basically to help them scale to their first six figures and beyond. we have, before we met actually, we had this program called Six Figure Accelerator. And after we met at that event, we got obviously great takeaways and how they were discussing about industry is transforming or transitioning into more like when trust recession came. So I reshaped my business a little after that, tweaked it.

And now I have a, yes, I was doing organic and high ticket coaching. Now I added more of low ticket and now jumping into paid ads as well. instead of six figure accelerator, it become micro for accelerator program. That's a newly new launch program that we did. We launched it just like a week ago and we got few people into that. So I'm working with them to two sessions have been delivered to those people.

So now it is like entire ecosystem that I've built up. can dive deep more into the session, but for 30 seconds. Yeah, that's what I'm doing, helping freelancers and coaches to scale to six figures and beyond.

Amanda Kaufman (02:21)

Amazing, I love that. you know, I was thinking about this episode and I'm like, what can my friend tell everybody that maybe they're not hearing somewhere else? So I just really want to point out, y'all, when we met, he heard this idea from the stage, what, a month and a half ago, six weeks ago, something like that. It was like, yeah. And sometimes you just hear something.

SAHIL SEHGAL (02:41)

Yeah, almost.

Amanda Kaufman (02:47)

And how many times have you heard something but just went into a journal? know, went to a journal to die. And I think something I really admire about you is I've seen like just how quickly you took some of the things that we learned in the room and you were like, boom, put it on the internet. Boom, got a new page up. Boom, started a new conversation. So talk to me a little bit about how your philosophy as a coach has changed to now focus on this ecosystem model.

So what is that and why? Why'd you do that?

SAHIL SEHGAL (03:18)

Right, so great point. So what first like philosophy thing on events, I want to talk about that touch base on that. Basically, whenever we go to attend any of the events, whether virtual or in person, one of my mentors taught me this thing that you cannot pick everything from any event that you go to, just pick for one thing that you can get from that and implement that in your business rather than trying to just jot down all the notes and taking pictures and clips and all that stuff.

So I think that's sticked with me and any event I go to, whether in person, master classes or challenges or summits that I attend, I always make sure that what is that one thing I can pick from? And then I go like really dial down into that. So for me, the one thing that I picked from that was how a lot of online businesses, or especially info product owners are shifting. Like there was a wave which was high ticket, high ticket, high ticket. Like I think I personally,

Amanda Kaufman (03:45)

Mm-hmm.

SAHIL SEHGAL (04:11)

uh, wasn't that way from 2020 to 2023 ish end or starting 2024. And then I started seeing some things like, okay, what used to work before are not working as compared to earlier. So at that point I started hearing this noise of like digital products, low tickets and all, like there were some posts from like other influencers and other legends out there. They were talking about how industry is shifting from this to this. High ticket is not dying. That's not the case, but middle tier.

what I see anything that you're selling from $3,000 to up to seven to $10,000. That's where it got hit. And a lot of, a lot of people reshape their business. That's what I was looking for actually before attending that event. So I got my that one thing and I'm like, okay, how can I tweak it so that I don't become just like, I don't end up becoming that victim or ended up closing my business. I've seen a lot of my like,

my coaches literally shut down their business for different reasons. And I'm like, no, I want to figure it out. So during that event, I got this thing is like where we talked about trust recession, we talked about how you have like awareness offers, entry level offers, and then you have your sweet spot offer, call it as 1000 to $2,000, whatever that event organizer, Anik talked about it. So

Amanda Kaufman (05:13)

Hmm.

SAHIL SEHGAL (05:30)

That's what those were my gold nuggets that I was like, it's like more of validation like, okay Yes, if I'm hearing this again and again and that everyone was just like for me. It was more of kickstart that Let's do this. Let's let's see what happens in that. So I was ready before that. It was just another validation for me So after that event I came back home and we looked back into my business what because when you have I'm doing this from last five years you have different

Amanda Kaufman (05:45)

Totally.

Yeah.

SAHIL SEHGAL (05:57)

things is like mini journeys that you have walked yourself in your business. What can you pick from that? And based on how industry is evolving, how you can fit into those buckets. That's what eventually I did. I had sold low tickets, multiple high tickets, super high tickets as well. So I was seeing how can I take lessons and things that I built up earlier and adapt to what's working in 2025. Yeah.

Amanda Kaufman (06:00)

you

Yes, I love this.

you know, I was sitting in the same presentations as you hearing the same things about the trust recession. So dear listener, if you've not heard of this, maybe you may be earlier in your marketing journey. But like like Sahil said, you know, in 2020, there was this massive move online by all industries. I'm not even talking just about coaching. So people who previously were not as exposed to to the

world of coaching or the online marketing world, suddenly they're bored, they're at home, they gotta spend their time. And so it ended up being a bit of a gold rush for coaches everywhere. And I can't think of a business owner that doesn't wanna make more money more quickly. So it makes a lot of sense that with all of that opportunity, high ticket everywhere, short sales cycles, higher pressure tactics to get people to make fast decisions.

and was a lot of fast money without a lot of structure. So I remember sitting there in the same presentation as you, and I've been doing this a little longer, like at eight years. So I had like the pre-pandemic context and it was still such a validating experience for me as well because I had learned from some of the people who have been in this industry for 20 plus years. And they had told me way back when I started 2016-17,

hey, you wanna have, know, some people called it a product matrix, some people called it an ascension value ladder, but like the really prolific and long-term people that have been running a strategy, they've all said that you wanna have a mix, a product mix. And it was only like in 2020, to 2023, around the same timeline that you were saying, that the rhetoric was always like,

Just focus on one thing, focus on that, you know, one, one, one, one, one. And it's like, I get that, but the model, I realized when they said it at the event, as a coach, we're leading people through an ecosystem. We're leading them through levels of commitment, and the people who are ready to move to the next level of commitment will, and the people who aren't ready won't, but there won't be this like crazy resentment that gets caused by.

SAHIL SEHGAL (08:14)

Yeah.

Amanda Kaufman (08:36)

always going for the high ticket hopeful, fast, fast sale, high pressure kind of situation, right? Yeah. Yeah.

SAHIL SEHGAL (08:42)

Right. That's all right. That's exactly what you experienced,

what I've gone through, went through my entire journey. So exactly, that's right on. It's like foundations and basics were like this. Even when you see the value ladder, that's what it was. But I personally also, I remember I was teaching this concept of reverse value ladder. Start with high ticket and then go towards bottom.

Amanda Kaufman (08:53)

like something something basic.

Mm-hmm.

SAHIL SEHGAL (09:07)

step down and then do that. So the concepts got tweaked. Yes, they got modified based on what you have walked through the journey. You are making your own frameworks basically. Okay. This is what worked for me. Nothing is wrong or right here. It's just something worked for someone, not for others. Right. was like, I remember I had, when you talked about that one offer, wasn't exactly six figure accelerator was over that core offer.

That one offer, nothing less than that. So what happened, I used to do master classes and challenges. Those were like $47, $97 and straight then it was $6,000 offer. I saw a big chunk of people that were like, can not invest $6,000, but is it something for us as well? And that was like a very big chunk of people. And I'm like, Nope. That's what I've been taught by my mentor that one offer, one thing. Yes. I don't have anything else. So keep attending over this.

sessions, the mini sessions or micro offers. And next thing is you got to invest high ticket, you know, so a lot of, I, found it as a lot of leakages. want to call it as a lot of people that slipped through that. Uh, I could have served them if I would have maybe something of lower level as well, like one to $2,000, what I call it a sweet spot offer in that there were a lot of them. I feel something bad as well. A lot of people have quit as well when they see like, okay, we tried it for

Some people like paid heavy amount, didn't get results for various reasons. And some like lose the hope. won. Like if I cannot invest high ticket, there is nothing for me. Nobody's helping me out. Kind of that stuff. So a lot of things. Yeah.

Amanda Kaufman (10:43)

And that's terrible stuff. Like you never

want to have that conversation or realize that you were, you know, you were that coach that their heart was broken, you know, but versus like something that's lower ticket, like how many people buy a book, you know, and they never read the book, but they also never feel guilty about it. But also have you ever read a book that changed your life?

Right. And it's a similar level of investment book to book. And I think it's the same thing when we start kind of moving down the value ladder from very high ticket, expensive, you know, coaching programs that are extremely high touch. Having options that people can be more casual with before they decide that they're going to commit at that higher level, it really does make a lot of sense.

So I'm just so curious when you went through this launch and you used to be the six figure accelerator guys and then you kind of flipped and shifted to adding more of this ecosystem conversation, I would love to know if you don't mind sharing with us, what did you learn in that launch that you couldn't have known before you started?

SAHIL SEHGAL (11:48)

Very good question.

there were lot of things which I learned through that launch. it's like all the lessons, all the takeaways fits different people into different levels of their journey. If I am a beginner, I would take different takeaways, beginner or advanced. So like the biggest one what I got was when I was selling this, it was like the first product was $7 masterclass, right? I was thinking to keep it 27.37 and R7.

I decided, okay, let me, because I wanted to do a beta testing. I wanted to do it with more data set. I was like, the front end is not a money making activity. I want maximum people to taste it what I'm doing. Right. So I kept it at $7. We got almost 52 people, something bought that. That was a little, it was good, but then I felt it. Okay. Even when I was doing it 47 or 27, I was getting same amount of people.

But then was a realization that, okay, first of all, these are not the same faces anymore. As I said, lot of people disappeared. They just left it. They quit it or whatever happened. They just were not in the game anymore. Right. And I was personally seeing all these people content. I'm like, last content was posted in last year ago. Like, wow. Okay. I felt bad at some point. I'm like, these people were attending my events and all for them.

it now I'm coming up with something, maybe it was for them, what they were asking any year or two years ago from me. Right. So that was a big realization. I'm like, okay, the face has changed at this point. All that was that lower level. was expecting at least to get maybe a hundred people minimum. I was expecting, but we got half of that. not bad. I with that. We launched that and then we pitched a thousand dollar offer. So that was a sweet spot offer that we did 997 in that.

Amanda Kaufman (13:13)

You

SAHIL SEHGAL (13:37)

I think it was more of now people were like, there was no hard selling that happened earlier. used to book calls and then close people on $6,000 offer of course. But for this, was like, even they got value, they understood the ecosystem. I showed them the entire thing. Literally it was like, it yourself. You want to do it, do it, feel free. I gave you enough examples and have enough stuff. Or if you want me to do it with me.

Then done with you coaching program that was $9.97. Right. So like I was seeing payments coming in. opened up 10 spots within few days, 10 spots were gone. And I'm like, okay, I want to limit it this time. Earlier, we used to take more people as well, using some scarcity, but still enrolling people. this time I made a decision that I'm not going to do any fake scarcity or urgency. 10 people in, close the doors. So we did that. Yeah. Exactly.

Amanda Kaufman (14:18)

Yeah, yeah, I like that style, too. I think it's better to just tell the truth, state the facts, you

know, and but but but beta dude, I'm like doing the maps. So you have 52 people by. I have to imagine most of them showed up, but like 80 percent show up rate potentially.

SAHIL SEHGAL (14:29)

Yeah.

33 people

were there in the live session. 33, 32, 33. Yeah. So we got, yeah.

Amanda Kaufman (14:41)

Dude, dude,

33 people in the live session, meant that you had 33 people see the offer to make then 10 sales. And I know you did a bit of follow up to get the to get the 10 that.

SAHIL SEHGAL (14:47)

Yes.

No, didn't.

Okay. Interesting part. This time I didn't even send any message to anyone. What I did was all through content. No, I did. Yeah. I was going to come to, I did the content part, the Facebook content part and the emails part. That's it. Earlier we used to like, Hey, where are you? Did you watch this masterclass? What's your takeaway? You know, all that scripting stuff, DM scripts. But this time I was like, I'm not, I don't want to do that. That's what I wanted to take people away from that DM chasing. That was another.

Amanda Kaufman (14:58)

No direct messages. Did you follow up emails?

Yeah.

Yeah. ⁓

SAHIL SEHGAL (15:22)

what you asked me to the lesson as well. But content with the heavy lifting for me.

Amanda Kaufman (15:24)

So that means you got,

I'm like doing the math here and freaking out on your behalf because it's so awesome, right? Because that new faces as well, 30 % conversion off of that webinar is outstanding. Congratulations. That's amazing. Like y'all just for reference, if he had said anything in the range of 10 % conversion, I would have said that is amazing, right? So he did an outstanding job of serving people.

SAHIL SEHGAL (15:41)

Thank you.

Amanda Kaufman (15:52)

And what's so cool is that there was no hassling in the one-on-one. It was just a highly consensual buy. That's pretty cool.

SAHIL SEHGAL (15:57)

No.

And

there is interesting part that happened that three of the people started conversation for a one on one coaching offer. And one of them literally paid two days ago. So we got one conversion of

Amanda Kaufman (16:11)

Join your...

to join your top tier.

SAHIL SEHGAL (16:14)

So yes, exactly. So that was like, okay, this person bought $7 masterclass. This person picked, there was an upsell of $97 one hour session, VIP intensive, I call it, that they bought. They bought a sweet spot offer of 997. And on top of that, they made a decision literally yesterday to buy the one-on-one coaching. So, and three out of them that also converted. Two more are already there, like we are arranging money and all that. So I'm not counting them as sales. We'll see. But so far.

Amanda Kaufman (16:41)

I do the same

thing. I'm like, verbal clothes ain't a clothes.

SAHIL SEHGAL (16:43)

Yeah,

exactly. Until it's paid, it's not closed.

Amanda Kaufman (16:45)

Yeah, yeah. No,

but I mean, like, that's still very promising and really exciting. You know, congratulations and dear listener, I hope just by walking by the way, so generous to just share your metrics and everything like that, because I think I know when I was starting out and I'm sure you've had this experience where you're like, well, this is all hypotheticals, right? And not having any kind of numbers to benchmark against can be really challenging. So.

SAHIL SEHGAL (17:06)

Yeah.

Amanda Kaufman (17:13)

Thank you so much for your generosity with that. So cool. So at this juncture, knowing what you know now, given your experience, you've been in the game for over five years, you said something so good. I want to circle back to that real quick before I ask my next question. And that was this decision to stay in the game and to keep playing and to just like recognize how the game has.

Maybe it's not even that the game changed, because like I said, this whole notion is known of having a product ladder and having a real ecosystem, as you call it. But the emphasis in the industry has not been on, let's build a stable business model. It's been, let's get as much money as quick as we can from as many people as possible. And that is always going to have an expiry date.

So I'm really excited for you for how you're building your stability and all of that. My next question, because you've clearly decided to stay in the game over the long term, is there anything that you would love a fellow entrepreneur to be reminded of today? Like maybe they've heard this before, but like you just know in your bones it's really important for them to hear. What is that?

SAHIL SEHGAL (18:23)

I think one lesson or one takeaway that people can get from here is there's a thing saying, I'm trying to modify my words, like winner is not who always sees success. Winner is someone who's full of all the failures, ups and downs, and have been into trenches, and they have more failures than successes,

what I've seen. I remember I was listening to one of the podcasts, I think it was Russell or someone.

So they talked about, he said that I don't do one-on-one business or I don't do a partnership with someone unless they have failed in five businesses. I was like, and that I heard like three years ago, I was just an year into the business. I'm like, how does it make sense when you're a beginner, don't like five failure. Why do you want to work with someone who has five failures? Later in the journey, then you realize it's not always about that winning moments or that the milestones that you crack.

It's always about what lessons that you learned from that, the failures, the more you carry that now you are more valuable. Now you're stuff you're weighted, you know what not to do. So you can literally help. That's a coach I would invest in because they would, they have seen what I might go into and they would have protect me like, bro, don't go into this way. It will hurt you or it will not be something that you would be proud of building. So when these things come,

they're a part and parcel of the business or life. gotta just be, it's like pivoting your way into the way, okay, if this thing had this much, what is that? There is always a time period or it's like everything has a, the product has expired date, you know, that things gonna evolve. They're gonna change with time. Now AI is the thing, but if like for my parents, literally, they don't know even how to place an order online.

properly. I have to literally go on a call and do a screen share and tell them, you know what I mean? yes. So they didn't, for them, internet is a thing which they're still trying to, you know, they can move along with it. For us, it's like AI now, next five years, it will be different thing. Things gonna evolve. You have to transform. You have to transition. You have to pivot your way to find out how you can stay in the game for longer. And it's the whatever.

Amanda Kaufman (20:10)

That's so cute. I love that. But it's a great reminder. Yeah.

SAHIL SEHGAL (20:35)

Things like marketers also, yeah, we are responsible sometimes showing shiny dreams and all money figures and all that stuff. Yes. I did it a lot in the beginning, to be honest. I was proudly doing it more of like, okay, if a guy like me who had no experience of business can build something like this, get inspired by that, but that can trigger different things. like, I also want to live like this. I also want to make 10k, 20k, 50k months and all that stuff. So, stay away from that. That's not a long-term game.

Other than that, what I just shared, I think that's helpful that the more just take a bag and carry more failures that will make you more valuable rather than just the winning things.

Amanda Kaufman (21:08)

I love

that wisdom so much because as you were sharing it, I was thinking, I'm like, gosh, the more you really pull into your heart how valuable failure really can be, it also allows you to be way more valuable to other people. So as a coach, I see so many coaches.

stuck in perfectionistic loops, denying that they are experiencing perfectionism, denying that they're challenged in any way because there's so much, I call this personal development awareness guilt. They're so like fixated on I have to be Pollyanna perfect all the time and then the first day that you fall down and skin your knee,

You know, it's like, no, you know, count me out. I can't be a coach because I'm not perfect. And it's like, it really isn't about that. It's more about, and I love this, like I'm seriously taking some notes on like, hmm, I'll have to think about this for future partners. Put it on the application. Yeah, yeah.

SAHIL SEHGAL (21:55)

All right.

I want to add one more thing. it's

like always another thing what I would help me when I had seen bad times in my business or where the business was not going as expected, that your surroundings and the people who you are already associated with that matters because I remember one day, so it was like two years ago, we had this big, massive event happened in our program.

where it's like, was seeing refunds requests started happening. was like something happened, scenario happened where one person just tried to mess up with the community and all. And I was like messed up really bad at that point. And to, for me to come back to from that situation, people around me or people who were like my coaches, I literally reached out to my first coach. I called him and texted him first. Like I was like, it possible for you to come on a call with me? I'm like going through a very hard time.

I really want to talk to you. It was one in his night and he's like, he called me right away. He's like, Sahil, everything okay? I'm like, I know it's late night for you, but I'm full of something and I want to just talk to you for, if you can give me 15 minutes. He's like, yeah, that's fine. I like literally post out. I'm like, this what happened and all that scenario, not just to one coach. literally, met, I went to met someone an hour away from me just because I was

all alone and I was not able to share with my family, with my wife what's going on and I wanted some expert guidance, people who have already been through. Anytime I was talking to them, not just one, two person, three, four people I talked to, anytime I was talking to them, were taking it so casually. I was like, oh, it's the first one. I'm like, what do mean it's first one? Bro, I'm not even able to open up my laptop. This is how bad I am feeling and you are just saying casually it's first one. I'm like, how come it's so easy?

Amanda Kaufman (23:43)

your first big failure.

Yeah, but it helps you calibrate,

right? Because if you shared that with your spouse or you shared that with your friends, they don't have any context. So they don't know what's an appropriate level of reaction, but a real mentor is going to have that experience.

SAHIL SEHGAL (23:54)

Exactly.

Exactly.

Yeah, they were so casual about it. They're like, it's the first one. Oh, we saw that in 2014. I'm like, okay. Have you, have you gone through something similar? Exact similar? Oh yeah. Yeah. We had to issue like six figures refund. I was like, okay. Mine is not six figures, I'm devastated at this point. I'm not sure what, can I recollect myself back? And then I heard their stories. I'm like, okay. My, my pain is much more smaller, but glad I was able to discuss with them because now I see how they handled it, what they did in this situation and

Amanda Kaufman (24:12)

Yeah.

Totally.

SAHIL SEHGAL (24:36)

it helped me to come out of it faster rather than quitting it. It helped me to rebuild myself. So I cannot be thankful enough to these people who, who I was making sure that I'm in touch with these people who were helping me at my worst times of my business. Huge kudos. So that matters who you're surrounding because your loved ones, get, they, they love you. They're going to protect you. The best advice they might be like, okay, find something else, but that might not be the solution. I do solution. You might have worked something.

Amanda Kaufman (24:42)

So good.

I love that. I love that.

SAHIL SEHGAL (25:04)

Like I took three years to build something and I would not want to listen to that advice. Just try something else. Like I put all my energy, time, blood, sweat into this to build it up. I cannot just let it go. So it was the hard time, but those people helped.

Amanda Kaufman (25:16)

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

So Sahil, what's the best way for people to follow you?

SAHIL SEHGAL (25:23)

All the social media channels, I'm most active on Facebook and Instagram. It's sahilseggalofficial, my first name, last name and official. We have a website sahilseggalofficial.com if you want to go connect like all of our Facebook group link, podcast link, everything.

Amanda Kaufman (25:35)

We'll make sure to

have all your links below. ⁓ dear listener, thank you so much for joining us. Make sure you smash that subscribe button if you haven't already and grab this episode and share it with three of your friends who are maybe struggling through thinking like, I got to change things up. You know, how do I how do I navigate these uncertain times as a coach? This is a great episode to share with them. And hey, if you have 30 seconds to share a review of the.

SAHIL SEHGAL (25:39)

Yes.

Amanda Kaufman (26:01)

podcast, we always appreciate that because it helps people decide whether they want to stop by and listen. So thank you so much for being here Sahil. Yeah, I mean, it was incredible. And dear listener, until next time, do what matters.

SAHIL SEHGAL (26:10)

You're welcome. I hope it was valuable.